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		<title>By: Helsa</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2646</link>
		<dc:creator>Helsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Redfin Real Estate Consumer Bill of Rights - sellsius real estate blog - real estate, blogging, business, advertising, marketing, and technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redfin Real Estate Consumer Bill of Rights - sellsius real estate blog - real estate, blogging, business, advertising, marketing, and technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has proposed a Real Estate Consumer Bill of Rights. Redfin seemed heading in the right direction to some and dead wrong to others. How vote [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wisest of the crowds &#187; Consumer Bill Rights - thanks Glenn!</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2643</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisest of the crowds &#187; Consumer Bill Rights - thanks Glenn!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in. Notable positive reviews include Kevin Boer of 3 Oceans Real Estate and Joel Burlesome of Future of Real Estate. Notable undeclared bloggers are Ardell Dellaloggia of Rain City and Christine Forgione of NY [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in. Notable positive reviews include Kevin Boer of 3 Oceans Real Estate and Joel Burlesome of Future of Real Estate. Notable undeclared bloggers are Ardell Dellaloggia of Rain City and Christine Forgione of NY [...]</p>
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		<title>By: REXI Agent 2.0 Development Program - Troublemakers Welcome &#171; The REXI Blog for Real Estate Agents in the know&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator>REXI Agent 2.0 Development Program - Troublemakers Welcome &#171; The REXI Blog for Real Estate Agents in the know&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Inman Real Estate news and writes excellent copy at The Future of Real Estate Marketing.  The recent posting from Joel was contrary to that of Gregs though on the relevance of the Redfin &#8216;Real Estate Consumer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Inman Real Estate news and writes excellent copy at The Future of Real Estate Marketing.  The recent posting from Joel was contrary to that of Gregs though on the relevance of the Redfin &#8216;Real Estate Consumer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Runa</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>Runa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I subscribed too... same reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I subscribed too&#8230; same reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryant Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I operated a &quot;discount&quot; flat fee company for 3 years in Tucson Arizona and I did not have any of the issue that RedFin struggles with. RedFin appears to be trying to enter their markets with a big sledgehammer instead of building on great service. They create the battle as best I can see. I listed and sold 80-100 units per year as a &quot;discounter&quot; and no one, except me, was worse for wear. My MLS had no issues and my peers were all paid a 3% co-op so they knew no difference. And we represented our sellers just like a good agent should. I elected to do it for less money.

RedFin is making a whole lot of noise for just coming up with the idea of being cheaper and cutting costs by doing less work. That is my frustration with them and other discount models. The only improvement they have created is being cheaper and that just is not worth getting excited about. When will someone actually create an new business model for real estate sales that the consumer will embrace? Cutting prices is not new, unique or diiferent. I closed my discount shop once I realized that being cheaper had no future ecxept really low profit margins.

I would love to see a new brokerage model that benefited the consumer but we may be waiting a long time for that. The consumer is holding strong to the traditional model and with the current market uncertainty I only see the hold being stronger than ever. The consumer is making a choice and they do have choices.

RedFin should focus on providing great service, being a positive force in the real estate community and win them by being better not by their current track of blaming the real estate community for their inability to be successful. Look in the mirror RedFin.

Good Tuesday to you!

Warmly,

Bryant Keefe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I operated a &#8220;discount&#8221; flat fee company for 3 years in Tucson Arizona and I did not have any of the issue that RedFin struggles with. RedFin appears to be trying to enter their markets with a big sledgehammer instead of building on great service. They create the battle as best I can see. I listed and sold 80-100 units per year as a &#8220;discounter&#8221; and no one, except me, was worse for wear. My MLS had no issues and my peers were all paid a 3% co-op so they knew no difference. And we represented our sellers just like a good agent should. I elected to do it for less money.</p>
<p>RedFin is making a whole lot of noise for just coming up with the idea of being cheaper and cutting costs by doing less work. That is my frustration with them and other discount models. The only improvement they have created is being cheaper and that just is not worth getting excited about. When will someone actually create an new business model for real estate sales that the consumer will embrace? Cutting prices is not new, unique or diiferent. I closed my discount shop once I realized that being cheaper had no future ecxept really low profit margins.</p>
<p>I would love to see a new brokerage model that benefited the consumer but we may be waiting a long time for that. The consumer is holding strong to the traditional model and with the current market uncertainty I only see the hold being stronger than ever. The consumer is making a choice and they do have choices.</p>
<p>RedFin should focus on providing great service, being a positive force in the real estate community and win them by being better not by their current track of blaming the real estate community for their inability to be successful. Look in the mirror RedFin.</p>
<p>Good Tuesday to you!</p>
<p>Warmly,</p>
<p>Bryant Keefe</p>
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		<title>By: RE Agent in CT &#187; Redfin Consumer Bill Of Rights Is McWeaksauce</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2637</link>
		<dc:creator>RE Agent in CT &#187; Redfin Consumer Bill Of Rights Is McWeaksauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Future of Real Estate Marketing&#160;Jonathan Dalton&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RE Agent in CT &#187; Redfin Consumer Bill Of Rights Is McWeaksauce</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2638</link>
		<dc:creator>RE Agent in CT &#187; Redfin Consumer Bill Of Rights Is McWeaksauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Future of Real Estate Marketing&#160;Jonathan Dalton&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Incredible Agent</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2636</link>
		<dc:creator>Incredible Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this dictated by one company? I don&#039;t seem to remember a casting call of ideas for the Real Estate Consumers Bill of Rights. The real US Bill of Rights had to be negotiated and ratifed in all 13 original colonies. There were many comprimises and adjustments to it. It certainly wasn&#039;t dictated by one state or individual.

Just because they say they are representing the &quot;little guy&quot; and call it a Bill of Rights, doesn&#039;t make it true. It seems to be more of a ploy to inject their model into the real estate world. I will not be signing the petition until there is an open discussion about what points will be in the Bill of Rights. We&#039;ll see if that happens. Otherwise it&#039;s just a Redfin Bill of Rights and no one will pay any attention to it.

I find it interesting that Glenn likes to use Political tactics for the Redfin PR campaign. I see a lot of similarities between their PR campaign and my days in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this dictated by one company? I don&#8217;t seem to remember a casting call of ideas for the Real Estate Consumers Bill of Rights. The real US Bill of Rights had to be negotiated and ratifed in all 13 original colonies. There were many comprimises and adjustments to it. It certainly wasn&#8217;t dictated by one state or individual.</p>
<p>Just because they say they are representing the &#8220;little guy&#8221; and call it a Bill of Rights, doesn&#8217;t make it true. It seems to be more of a ploy to inject their model into the real estate world. I will not be signing the petition until there is an open discussion about what points will be in the Bill of Rights. We&#8217;ll see if that happens. Otherwise it&#8217;s just a Redfin Bill of Rights and no one will pay any attention to it.</p>
<p>I find it interesting that Glenn likes to use Political tactics for the Redfin PR campaign. I see a lot of similarities between their PR campaign and my days in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dalton</title>
		<link>http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/2007/04/02/stand-up-and-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-2635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I think it’s high time someone stick up for the little guy here.

Which little guy, Joel? The consumer of the maverick limited-service real estate company trying to gain some traction with a model which the general public has embraced only in limited doses?

#6 doesn&#039;t address the consumer. It addresses Redfin&#039;s rebate model, nothing more. The assertion that variable commissions exist to screw the buyer or Redfin is ludicrous.

#7 cuts to personal choice. Some sellers opt to sell homes on their own, without the use of a real estate professional. They&#039;re choosing an alternative which by its nature leads to limited marketing. This is their choice. If these homes can&#039;t be found by the buyer or his/her agent, whose fault is that?

#10 again cuts to Redfin&#039;s model. I&#039;ve never refused a showing to an agent simply because of the company they work for. But that&#039;s not Redfin&#039;s point. They want the listing agent to start the process and still pay Redfin for &quot;representing&quot; a client they didn&#039;t represent at the start.

If this were more about the consumer and less about the PR splash, I&#039;d step in line as well. But this is Redfin trying to codify its business model as the moral compass for the industry. And on that, I&#039;ll have to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I think it’s high time someone stick up for the little guy here.</p>
<p>Which little guy, Joel? The consumer of the maverick limited-service real estate company trying to gain some traction with a model which the general public has embraced only in limited doses?</p>
<p>#6 doesn&#8217;t address the consumer. It addresses Redfin&#8217;s rebate model, nothing more. The assertion that variable commissions exist to screw the buyer or Redfin is ludicrous.</p>
<p>#7 cuts to personal choice. Some sellers opt to sell homes on their own, without the use of a real estate professional. They&#8217;re choosing an alternative which by its nature leads to limited marketing. This is their choice. If these homes can&#8217;t be found by the buyer or his/her agent, whose fault is that?</p>
<p>#10 again cuts to Redfin&#8217;s model. I&#8217;ve never refused a showing to an agent simply because of the company they work for. But that&#8217;s not Redfin&#8217;s point. They want the listing agent to start the process and still pay Redfin for &#8220;representing&#8221; a client they didn&#8217;t represent at the start.</p>
<p>If this were more about the consumer and less about the PR splash, I&#8217;d step in line as well. But this is Redfin trying to codify its business model as the moral compass for the industry. And on that, I&#8217;ll have to pass.</p>
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